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and i think john mccain said that very early on. and he was dead-on. it's just a fact. so, i mean, who else is doing this kind of thing with mortars and rpgs? >> some of your senate colleagues are suggesting a joint house senate committee like the iran contra committee, like the 9/11 commission. can this be handled by the senate intelligence committee and the house intelligence committee? >> oh, it certainly could be. we work very well together. the four corners meet, we discuss. i've had no proposal to that. i'd certainly be open to the proposal. you don't want to make it so big that it's a problem, but on the other hand, this has to be bipartisan and it should be bicamer bicameral, i would think. so i'm open to the suggestion. >> and returning, finally, to the resignation of david petraeus, how badly damaged is the cia and our intelligence community by this? >> well, the cia is going to go on. and the cia will recover. this is a professional organization. it's a strong organization. the number two is very good. he will take over and take over quickly. and then, hopefu
and i think john mccain said that very early on. and he was dead-on. it's just a fact. so, i mean, who else is doing this kind of thing with mortars and rpgs? >> some of your senate colleagues are suggesting a joint house senate committee like the iran contra committee, like the 9/11 commission. can this be handled by the senate intelligence committee and the house intelligence committee? >> oh, it certainly could be. we work very well together. the four corners meet, we discuss....
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and you see the john mccain supporters concentrated inland and the obama supporters on the coast. in 2010 we had a new census and we had a citizens redistricting commission that put together a new group of districts and the 2012 congress enjoyed those new districts and was able to pick up more seats along the coast because the districts follow more closely the partisan break down. so in 2012, democrats were able to pick up three seats and they actually pick up a 4th. that little yellow spot is a perfect example of this. that's district 7 where republican dan lungren has served since 2005. and it's a very close seat, brought to you by redistricting. >> the democrats are probably applauding now the election has come and gone. before it they were like don't do that. >> back in 2008, and again in 2010, that's when the ballot measures were up before voters so that we could create this independent commission instead of letting the legislature create their own lines. when that happened, the democrats were strongly against it. nancy pi rosie was against it -- pilosi was against it. on the
and you see the john mccain supporters concentrated inland and the obama supporters on the coast. in 2010 we had a new census and we had a citizens redistricting commission that put together a new group of districts and the 2012 congress enjoyed those new districts and was able to pick up more seats along the coast because the districts follow more closely the partisan break down. so in 2012, democrats were able to pick up three seats and they actually pick up a 4th. that little yellow spot is...
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. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can find me at @tamronhall and my team at @newsnation. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and my daughter loves the santa. oh, ah sir. that is a customer. let's not tell mom. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> welcome back. how to rebrand the gop is the subject of a new serie
. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can find me at @tamronhall and my team at @newsnation. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well,...
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john mccain shared that same belief, our last candidate. gregg: it went nowhere. >> it went somewhere for george bush that got 44% of the hispanic vote in 2004, a percentage higher than barack obama got this year. there is a vibrant part of the republican party that understands that there has to be a practical solution to the fact that there are 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country. at the same time we could smartly deal with border security to prevent the flood of more. but for those 11 million year we just can't say selfdeportation as a solution. gregg: speaker john boehner came out and said and i'll quote, a comprehensive approach is long overdue. politically is now a good time to try and do it? >> well i don't think the republicans really have a choice at this point. i think the writing is on the wall that they are going to need to work with the president on it. and hopefully we will be able to actually see both sides come together and do some sort of comprehensive immigration reform. it's true that george bush -- george b
john mccain shared that same belief, our last candidate. gregg: it went nowhere. >> it went somewhere for george bush that got 44% of the hispanic vote in 2004, a percentage higher than barack obama got this year. there is a vibrant part of the republican party that understands that there has to be a practical solution to the fact that there are 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country. at the same time we could smartly deal with border security to prevent the flood of more. but...
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mitt romney got almost 3 million votes less than john mccain did. this election, and you could come up with a lot of arguments as to why mitt romney didn't win. i thought he left it all on the playing field, and i thought he did as well as he could give given the circumstances. but the truth of the matter is that we couldn't come up with enough votes to win. >> patrick, it is not just about the candidate or putting a candidate that has a, you know, an hispanic sounding last name or a minority on the ticket. you said that you not only had that problem, but you have -- >> an angry white man problem. >> angry white man problem. >> i don't want to discredit marco rubio for just saying that he is an up-and-comer because he is hispanic. he's an up-and-comer because he can look into the camera and express a conservative viewpoint without being angry or saying the word rape quite frankly. he connects with people and so the fact that he is a cuban-american is a plus but it is not the reason that he is up and coming. >> explain angry man -- >> the gop has a p
mitt romney got almost 3 million votes less than john mccain did. this election, and you could come up with a lot of arguments as to why mitt romney didn't win. i thought he left it all on the playing field, and i thought he did as well as he could give given the circumstances. but the truth of the matter is that we couldn't come up with enough votes to win. >> patrick, it is not just about the candidate or putting a candidate that has a, you know, an hispanic sounding last name or a...
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. >> fewer votes than john mccain, however, which i don't think anyone would have necessarily pretty quicked. are we going to learn something about the republican party when we see how the discussions for the fiscal cliff go? >> you're going to see if the republican party is going to give in terms of tax rates and what are they willing to compromise on in order to get a deal done to avoid the fiscal cliff. if they hold steadfast to their position and basically say, it's our way or the highway, they are going to basically feed into this alienation of these key demographic groups. this is what i think every party goes through in terms of when you lose, especially in a race that you thought you had a chance to win. again, i think the problem here for the republicans is the spokespersons of the party, whether mitch mcconnell or john boehner and whoever it might be at the national level, i'm not sure who else that could be at this point, they have to understand that everybody listens now. we live in a different media age. and when you talk in very extreme voices or out-of-touch voices, yo
. >> fewer votes than john mccain, however, which i don't think anyone would have necessarily pretty quicked. are we going to learn something about the republican party when we see how the discussions for the fiscal cliff go? >> you're going to see if the republican party is going to give in terms of tax rates and what are they willing to compromise on in order to get a deal done to avoid the fiscal cliff. if they hold steadfast to their position and basically say, it's our way or...
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counties in particular to show you the changes and to show you how while mitt romney did better than john mccain in the state of florida overall, he it did worse in these -- in the i-4 corridor and in particular in three counties that i'm going to point out here carefully. i'm going to start with hillsborough, if you will. it's the largest -- sorry about that. look at this. just one day later and we're masking through everything here. you would think that all would be well with our app. let me get you back here to florida, the presidential race rather than the senate race. i missed the touch screen. the touch screen was always so much easier to do. so let's get right to hillsborough and we'll show you the raw returns in 2008. the president 53% to 46%. look at the raw vote total here. 286,000 votes n. 2008 he won hillsborough county but he had 272,000 votes, also the same 53% to 46%. but the president did increase his margin by 1,000 votes overall in his lead there. look at the swing from 2004, if you will, in hillsborough when hillsborough was a 53%/46% county for the president. when we m
counties in particular to show you the changes and to show you how while mitt romney did better than john mccain in the state of florida overall, he it did worse in these -- in the i-4 corridor and in particular in three counties that i'm going to point out here carefully. i'm going to start with hillsborough, if you will. it's the largest -- sorry about that. look at this. just one day later and we're masking through everything here. you would think that all would be well with our app. let me...
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. >> there was once upon a time, all of us remember, there was a coalition, ted kennedy, john mccain, president bush, he tried to get comprehensive immigration reform, all of them worked really hard. didn't exactly work out. now chuck schumer, the democrat from new york, lindsey graham, the republican from south carolina, they are trying right now. they have a serious proposal out there to recreate that coalition. is it going to go anywhere? >> i hope so. the republicans have been awol on comprehensive immigration reform since 2007. i think president obama should reach out to president bush so that he can help recruit more republicans to help him. president obama's committed to comprehensive immigration reform. i looked the other day, 90% of hispanics have parents or grandparents who immigrated to the united states from another country. that's why the republicans should be afraid. ther they should help us -- >> i don't think they have to be afraid. >> mitt romney talked about self-deportation, that turned off a lot of folks out there. >> i think self-deportation is what president obam
. >> there was once upon a time, all of us remember, there was a coalition, ted kennedy, john mccain, president bush, he tried to get comprehensive immigration reform, all of them worked really hard. didn't exactly work out. now chuck schumer, the democrat from new york, lindsey graham, the republican from south carolina, they are trying right now. they have a serious proposal out there to recreate that coalition. is it going to go anywhere? >> i hope so. the republicans have been...
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mccain and it looks like he'll be 2 million viewer, i would have been du dumbfounded. >> michael, thanks for joining us. we have had a good time arguing and discussing things occasionally agreeing on things but often not. let me ask you about that republican world view. i wonder what color the sky is. how did they see this election the way rasmussen pollsters would see it, basically a romney romp? how did they get it so wrong? >> i think there was a feeding into a mythology that somehow the country would categorically reject the president because we had, that the country would somehow say to itself, you know, we can't live with this new land of big government health care, big government spending, et cetera, because we can't. and that's fine. the problem was in articulating to the american people why we can't live with those things, why those things are bad, and instead, as you have noted many times on this program, we got w waylaid by conversations about women's bodies and abortion and things that didn't go to the nub of what was moving the electorate, and i think right now newt is absol
mccain and it looks like he'll be 2 million viewer, i would have been du dumbfounded. >> michael, thanks for joining us. we have had a good time arguing and discussing things occasionally agreeing on things but often not. let me ask you about that republican world view. i wonder what color the sky is. how did they see this election the way rasmussen pollsters would see it, basically a romney romp? how did they get it so wrong? >> i think there was a feeding into a mythology that...
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then there is john mccain. everything has changed since the election. it was politically not viable and now it has become politically viable. host: this comment by grover norquist from a cbs news story. host: this from nbc news, i apologize. from nebraska.sc caller: thank you for taking my call. latinos when for obama primarily for the immigration issue. you do not think that is narrow minded or the might be other issues that latinos are focusing in. if you would want to discuss those. guest: that is an excellent question. polling shows that what voters care for our jobs and the economy. immigration is either number two or number 3 on their list of things that they care about. it is much higher in places like arizona. it is the number two issue among hispanics. my sense has been that i do not think hispanics always want to be associated with immigration. it is difficult to separate the immigration conversation from them because it is so integral to their lives. 60% of hispanic voters know somebody personally that is undocumented and they could be dating
then there is john mccain. everything has changed since the election. it was politically not viable and now it has become politically viable. host: this comment by grover norquist from a cbs news story. host: this from nbc news, i apologize. from nebraska.sc caller: thank you for taking my call. latinos when for obama primarily for the immigration issue. you do not think that is narrow minded or the might be other issues that latinos are focusing in. if you would want to discuss those. guest:...
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we did a story recently about him and we had john mccain talk about how much -- how much he respected and although they did not always see eye to eye. but i think the foreign relations panel in both chambers, sense, i guess, the 1960's, just as not had as much as an impact on what the president does as it used to. if kerry becomes the secretary of state, i guess you end up taking what he was hoping to do -- and at the administration level. but it reiterates what i am saying, which is you can't do much until you are in the administration about these kinds of things. >> i think you made a good point. if i could go back to bob corker also. he is kind of this fascinating character to me. in some ways he is almost non partisan and the way he deals with a lot of people. it may be due to his background as mayor of chattanooga. instead of going to the republican national convention in tampa over the summer, he went to the middle east. some people will use these as publicity stunts -- look at me, i am substantive while others are getting drunk. but at the same time, he is a pretty sharp guy. d
we did a story recently about him and we had john mccain talk about how much -- how much he respected and although they did not always see eye to eye. but i think the foreign relations panel in both chambers, sense, i guess, the 1960's, just as not had as much as an impact on what the president does as it used to. if kerry becomes the secretary of state, i guess you end up taking what he was hoping to do -- and at the administration level. but it reiterates what i am saying, which is you can't...
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john mccain who is a big critic of the defense part of the sequester, it was he voted for it. paul ryan voted for it. so you know, i'm not saying democrats are blameless here or don't deserve some of the responsibility but the idea that republicans are washing their hands and saying this is a white house ploy is completely wrong. >> bill: i was at the white house friday when president obama came into the east room and made a very short speech. very clear about what his plan is and what he wanted. here's the president with one challenge to members of congress. >> obama: i'm open to compromise. i'm open to new ideas. i'm committed to solving our fiscal challenges. but i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. >> bill: what does he mean by that? >> balanced. he's saying first of all it's not just spending cuts. it has to be revenues as well. second, he's rejecting the john boehner approach which is boehner saying i'll agree to revenues as long as they come as a result of economic growth. in other words, we won't legislate changes in taxes. we'll hope that revenues go u
john mccain who is a big critic of the defense part of the sequester, it was he voted for it. paul ryan voted for it. so you know, i'm not saying democrats are blameless here or don't deserve some of the responsibility but the idea that republicans are washing their hands and saying this is a white house ploy is completely wrong. >> bill: i was at the white house friday when president obama came into the east room and made a very short speech. very clear about what his plan is and what he...
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how they did it, but if you had said to me three weeks ago mitt romney would get viewer votes than john mccain and looks like it will be 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> real quickly, facing the fiscal cliff in the coming months. the outcome of this election will affect the debate over that and the resolution of that how? >> well, the president faces the biggest choice since january of 2009. does he sit down in a room and honestly openly negotiate with speaker boehner, mitch mcconnell, or does he come in, give a set of demands and go hold a press conference? they can, i believe, hammer out -- >> same can the said on the other side, by the way. >> but if the president is willing to do it, the republicans have no choice. i mean, you can't turn down a president who just won re-election if he's sincere and willing to negotiate. >> going to take some bold initiatives which is my segue into your book, okay, because you've written this book about george washington and his bold moves to break the stalemate of the revolutionary war. so much has been written about george washing
how they did it, but if you had said to me three weeks ago mitt romney would get viewer votes than john mccain and looks like it will be 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> real quickly, facing the fiscal cliff in the coming months. the outcome of this election will affect the debate over that and the resolution of that how? >> well, the president faces the biggest choice since january of 2009. does he sit down in a room and honestly openly negotiate with speaker...